The Duggar’s Family cult, 19 Kids and counting ……their bubble is about to burst!

I first wrote this post back in June 19th, 2014, and was not finished with it, but now with the sad news of Josh Duggar, it is important to note that it took only a matter of time before the truth was to come out.  I truly feel for these children, and I pray the Lord will deliver them away from this cult family and their false biblical representation of what the family of God is to represent.
I’m very happy this program has been cancelled, and I pray the Lord will truly bring a much needed healing to Josh Duggar, and set him and his siblings free!

And may the Lord bring about True Salvation to the parents, and grant them repentance.

June 19th, 2014

Ok people I want to ask a question “How many people have watched the TLC show “The Duggar Family, 19 kids and counting”?

I started watching that program about six years ago, and I thought, oh how great and uplifting this show was. Then I started questioning “if” God our Lord was truly behind this family.

So I started to do some research concerning this family and what Church affiliation they belonged to, what I found out was not very pleasant. They are tide  in with Bill Gothard the leader of the Institute in Basic Life Principles, Doug Phillips, the president of Vision Forum Ministries who led the ‘Christian Patriarchy Movement’. And the Duggar’s are influenced by the writings of Michael and Debi Pearl’s discipline methods.

Well it seems the Duggar’s bubble is about to burst
There is a sex scandal that was first reported back in April of this year involving Doug Phillips he has resigned and Vision Forum Ministries has closed it’s doors.
Bill Gothard who ran a group home for delinquent children in Indianapolis, Indiana. Had to close it’s doors due to various abuses: “physical, emotional, and spiritual, they suffered at the hand of Gothard and his multiple ministries, including orphanages in places like Russia.”

In circles outside of Bill Gothard followers, he is considered a “cult leader” and I have to agree with that. I do consider The Duggar’s a cult.

I also have discovered that their eldest son Josh, who was married 3 or 4 years ago, was “offered a job at Family Research Council.” On June 18, 2013, it was announced that Josh was hired to be the executive director of the Family Research Council’s political action committee and that he and his family would be moving to Washington, D.C..” as listed in Wikipedia. Now what is interesting is that the FRC is an American Christian Group (so-called Christian) which serves as a lobbying organization formed in 1981 by Dr. James Dobson of “Focus on the Family”.  Another man who is engaged with the workings of the United Nations, who also represents a False Gospel, and a false Christ.

So this TLC family is not all what it appears on TV, it’s truly a propaganda tool of the so-called Christian Right groups.

Here are some links where you can read for yourself, what truly is behind this smiley face “reality” family;

It truly will open your eyes to the subtle deception that is being perpetrated upon the it’s viewers.

The Duggar’s do NOT represent the true Christ, they are a plant for something much more sinister, so please people find out for yourself, and let’s stop watching this farce of a “happy” Godly family.

And this is OPEN for discussion, what are your thoughts concerning this show, “if” you have watched it?


After chastisements…………the Peacable fruit of Righteousness……and Joy cometh in the morning!

This was a response to a dear brother in the Lord who wrote an article titled:


This brother wrote this with the most sincerest intentions and honesty as far as he understands, and part of the article is very true, but his understanding in God’s design for how we are to walk is in error.  He actually is trying to justify his disobedience to the Lord and His Word, because he is deceived by the intentions of his fleshly heart.  He thinks he has a ministry, and he may have such, but he is not walking according to the Lord’s Word on how believers are to govern themselves.

For an example, this dear brother, sends his wife out to work, so that he may stay home and take care of their two boys, and to be available to minister to believers, and write articles.  The problem is that a man is to provide for the family while the wife stays home and cares for the children and the household.  He has turned it around.  His wife has suffered terribly from a sickness and was not able to work, but the Lord has provided means for him to stay afloat and provide for the family, and minister to his wife due to this disease which is now in remission, thank the Lord for that.  But once he informed me that she was going to go out to work, I brought to his attention that this was NOT the will of the Lord, God’s word is clear on that issue and there is no way of getting around it. A man who is a follower of the Lord is to make sure the Lord is his first priority, then “if” he is married, then he is commanded to provide for the wife and the children FIRST, then “IF” he has a ministry that is last.  Because the Lord desires NOT the family to suffer due to a ministry, and there is no biblical support otherwise.  The Lord and one’s relationship is first, family second, and ministry will follow as the Lord should lead which will NOT contradict His Word!  His wife has suffered sickness, he has had many states of depression, and his sons are not believers in the Lord.

The Lord will use many differing ways to get our attention, I know for I have suffered many majorly deep depressions in my life to the point of terrible despondency, but through each one of them, He has revealed why and brought healing, and which lead me to see my errors in HOW I was conducting myself in what I was believing, or not believing.  This was the way the Lord brought “Chastisements” to me by using a mental anguish to bring me to the truth of a matter concerning obedience and His Ways. The Lord will also use sickness, but many times we don’t recognize these situations as a disciplinary action by the Lord to grab hold of our attention for some specific purpose.  Most of the time we think it’s just the way of life on earth, getting sick, and most of the time it is, but many times it is sent from the Lord for a specific purpose, such as correction.   In many circles they think it’s just an attack from the devil, which in some cases it can be, but most of the time it is not, and in other cases some may think it is a test, or a trial to test our faith and trust in Him, and that can also be true.   It is up to us to seek the Lord with a sincere heart to find out the why, and that is where we as immature Christians can fail, but thank the Lord, His faithfulness to us is NOT based upon our faithfulness to Him.

Now on to my reply:

Pro 16:25  There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

        Anything which is not followed in OBEDIENCE, be it through self-will, pride, lack of knowledge or wisdom, and our own ignorance will bring about “Suffering”,(sin is death) and we can and will suffer personal loss from wrong decisions whatever the reason.  Especially if it is done through ignorance, which will mostly occur when we are “Babes in Christ”, and “if” this be the case the Lord’s mercies and understanding and faithfulness will bring us out of it, but once we have learned from the “errors” of our immaturity in understanding, then we will walk according to His Ways, and will have the grace to keep walking in His Upright ways.

        God is a God of order, and He has made known His Ways especially in HOW we as believers need to conduct our lives according to His Word.  For the ways of the Spirit is in His Truth.  His ways can be overshadowed by our MISUNDERSTANDINGS in Rightly dividing the Word of the Lord.

As the Lord stated:

 2Ti 2:13  If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

2Ti 2:14  Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.

2Ti 2:15  Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


So we are to “STUDY” to show ourselves approved, why?  So that we may walk uprightly in His Ways and speak to those who error from His Ways;

2Ti 2:24  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

2Ti 2:25  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

2Ti 2:26  And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.


There are many examples of Godly men who erred in their decision making which led to suffering, once realizing their “sinful actions” were forgiven, but still suffered loss due to those actions, they will bring loss.  Though forgiven and cleansed, once we have repented, we will sometimes still have to suffer the consequences.


The first major example which comes to mind is King David, and his actions to win Bathsheba, which caused the death of an upright man through the hands of David.  Was it God’s will that this be done? Was the Lord the author of David’s lustful heart?

 2Sa 11:27  And when the mourning was past, David sent and fetched her to his house, and she became his wife, and bare him a son. But the thing that David had done displeased the LORD.


 That should bring about a resounding NO!  David was out of God’s order in how he should have governed himself, but his fleshly and lustful heart, (which was a continual weakness) won out.  Even though David eventually came to see how he not only sinned against his God, and lead a man to his death, and repented of it and was forgiven of the Lord, God’s judgement of righteousness had to be forthcoming.  David SUFFERED loss from his sin, and others suffered along due to his disobedience, and violence and the sword was to be the way of life for him and his kingdom:

 2Sa 12:9  Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.

2Sa 12:10  Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife.

2Sa 12:11  Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

2Sa 12:12  For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.

2Sa 12:13  And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.

2Sa 12:14  Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.



The Lord brought forth His Judgement so that ALL of Israel would see and take note, that He was a Just God and did not show favoritism towards anyone that sinned Against Him and His Ways!


And yet after all this King David to this day is known as a “man after God’s heart”.


Now another example is King Hezekiah:

 2Ki 20:3  I beseech thee, O LORD, remember now how I have walked before thee in truth and with a perfect heart, and have done that which is good in thy sight. And Hezekiah wept sore.

2Ki 20:4  And it came to pass, afore Isaiah was gone out into the middle court, that the word of the LORD came to him, saying,

2Ki 20:5  Turn again, and tell Hezekiah the captain of my people, Thus saith the LORD, the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will heal thee: on the third day thou shalt go up unto the house of the LORD.

2Ki 20:6  And I will add unto thy days fifteen years; and I will deliver thee and this city out of the hand of the king of Assyria; and I will defend this city for mine own sake, and for my servant David’s sake.

After the Lord granted him another 15 years, Hezekiah in his fleshly zeal did something very foolish and suffered the consequence of is actions and of which all of Israel did suffer:

2Ki 20:12  At that time Berodachbaladan, the son of Baladan, king of Babylon, sent letters and a present unto Hezekiah: for he had heard that Hezekiah had been sick.

2Ki 20:13  And Hezekiah hearkened unto them, and shewed them all the house of his precious things, the silver, and the gold, and the spices, and the precious ointment, and all the house of his armour, and all that was found in his treasures: there was nothing in his house, nor in all his dominion, that Hezekiah shewed them not.

2Ki 20:14  Then came Isaiah the prophet unto king Hezekiah, and said unto him, What said these men? and from whence came they unto thee? And Hezekiah said, They are come from a far country, even from Babylon.

2Ki 20:15  And he said, What have they seen in thine house? And Hezekiah answered, All the things that are in mine house have they seen: there is nothing among my treasures that I have not shewed them.

2Ki 20:16  And Isaiah said unto Hezekiah, Hear the word of the LORD.

2Ki 20:17  Behold, the days come, that all that is in thine house, and that which thy fathers have laid up in store unto this day, shall be carried into Babylon: nothing shall be left, saith the LORD.

2Ki 20:18  And of thy sons that shall issue from thee, which thou shalt beget, shall they take away; and they shall be eunuchs in the palace of the king of Babylon.

2Ki 20:19  Then said Hezekiah unto Isaiah, Good is the word of the LORD which thou hast spoken. And he said, Is it not good, if peace and truth be in my days?

2Ki 20:20  And the rest of the acts of Hezekiah, and all his might, and how he made a pool, and a conduit, and brought water into the city, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah?

2Ki 20:21  And Hezekiah slept with his fathers: and Manasseh his son reigned in his stead.


These are a couple of examples from the Old, and there are examples from the New Testament as well for our learning.


Paul wrote to the Corinthians warning them that there is a proper way to build upon the foundation of the Lord Jesus Christ and what He expects from His people and “if” they do not build properly upon that foundation they shall suffer loss:

1Co 3:10  According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

1Co 3:11  For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

1Co 3:12  Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

1Co 3:13  Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.

1Co 3:14  If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

1Co 3:15  If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.


Here is an example of a believer who walked according to the sinful and fleshly desires of his lustful heart, and this man had to be chastised by being separated from the body, so that the Lord’s correction and repentance be granted unto this man.  They failed to act until Paul got wind of it, and instructed them in PROPER Godly council how to deal with the situation:

 1Co 5:1  It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife.

1Co 5:2  And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.

1Co 5:3  For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,

1Co 5:4  In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

1Co 5:5  To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

1Co 5:6  Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

1Co 5:7  Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

1Co 5:8  Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.


This man walked according to his own way possibly due to ignorance, and the members allowed it due to “Pride” and carnality, this was NOT according to God’s pattern of governing.  Was the Lord the author of this man’s sin?  Did the Lord guide him into working this unrighteousness? No, absolutely not.

Once the members acted according to God’s will in dealing with this sinful act, repentance was granted unto this man, and he was then returned unto them.  His sin was forgiven and he was restored, and more than likely never practiced that evil again.


We are also warned that  believers should NOT marry an unbeliever, “if” they do they will suffer the consequences, for the Lord desires us NOT to be unequally yoked, and to this day we see many so-called Christian marriages in shambles because they do NOT OBEY the Lord’s guidance in these matters.  But there is always forgiveness and repentance granted once confessed, then we depend upon the Lord’s mercy and grace within that situation.

We are also warned that if a believer does not work and provided for himself and his family, that he should not eat, and that they are worse than the heathens!

Also fathers are warned that:

 Eph 6:4  And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

How many Christian homes have suffered loss due to Christian father’s NOT being there for their children in the manner which the Lord has desired?  Many walk after the council of their own fleshly hearts and human reasoning minds (these bring death) and therefore their children suffer from it, and many don’t desire to follow the Lord. (I’ve known the children to go into homosexuality) How many women who say they are Christian are working and not there for the family unit as God desires……many.

I’ve seen so many families whose fathers are supposedly “ministers of God’s word”, paying more attention to the sheep, and their ministries then their own families and their needs! 

So if there be no discipline in following the Lord’s desires ALL will suffer loss in the natural as well in Spiritual rewards. And none of it is the Lord’s will.

And there will be regrets; we are to judge our actions and beliefs according to what the Lord’s Word instruct us, and where we aren’t willing due to “misunderstandings” or plain fleshly stubbornness and pride, there is hope  “if” we sincerely seek His will and ways He will get us there for sure, without any doubting of His Faithfulness towards us His Children.

We are admonished to know the Lord’s Will according to His council, to know what is Right and Just in His eyes not our own as stated here:

 Eph 5:6  Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

Eph 5:7  Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

Eph 5:8  For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

Eph 5:9  (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Eph 5:10  Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

Eph 5:11  And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Eph 5:12  For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

Eph 5:13  But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

Eph 5:14  Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

Eph 5:15  See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,

Eph 5:16  Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

Eph 5:17  Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.


 To do otherwise is disobedience, not ALL of our actions and decisions are of God’s will or plan, otherwise why would He need to chastise us for our good, which worketh Righteousness unto Holiness?


So in part, what you are stating in your discernment,  is not correct,  no person who follows Christ can walk their own walk, we are NOT an island unto ourselves.  And the path you have walked does have error as I have walked in error, but by the Grace of God…..He has brought me out of it, and I have paid a price, some through ignorance and false teaching, which darkened my understanding, but once His chastisements came, I learned His Ways, and by His Grace, I have the desire to walk in them.  And through that learning process I am able to share with you where you err.


In His Eternal Love……

Heb 12:10  For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
Heb 12:11  Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

Psa 30:2  O LORD my God, I cried unto thee, and thou hast healed me.

Psa 30:3  O LORD, thou hast brought up my soul from the grave: thou hast kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit.Psa 30:4  Sing unto the LORD, O ye saints of his, and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.
Psa 30:5  For his anger endureth but a moment; in his favour is life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning.

I pray the Lord would like to teach to all His Ways, that He will give you the understanding and the willingness to obey by His Grace, and “if” you are not willing, He will make you willing.

The Lord bless you one and all.

In His Eternal Love….

BEWARE… Jim Brown with ‘Grace and Truth Ministries’ is a heretic!!!!!

2Pe 2:1  But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2Pe 2:2  And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
Php 3:18  (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Php 3:19  Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

     I first became aware of Jim Brown just a couple of weeks ago through a video I watched, where he first stated;“the English language is a harlot language” my first initial reaction was one of disbelief!  I wondered how in the world could a “biblical teacher” believe this to be so? I also was terribly uncomfortable in the manner in which he spoke, he seemed to be yelling, as if yelling was going to hammer into my mind that he was speaking truth. He kept making statements that one “needs to know Greek” to fully understand the bible!   My first thought was that this man is leading a “cult” like group, because I have experienced the “fruits” of a cult leader.  Then I saw in the title of the video a word, which was new to me, it was Gematria.  Well my mind immediately felt alerted, so I did a Google search, and this is what I found in the Wikipedia, it is a direct quote:

Gematria or gimatria (Hebrew: גימטריה gēmaṭriyā) is a system of assigning numerical value to a word or phrase, in the belief that words or phrases with identical numerical values bear some relation to each other, or bear some relation to the number itself as it may apply to a person’s age, the calendar year, or the like. It is likely that the term derives from the order of the Greek alphabet, gamma being the third letter of the Greek alphabet (gamma + tria).[1] Alternatively, the word “gematria” is generally held to derive from Greek geōmetriā, “geometry“, which was used as a translation of gēmaṭriyā, though some scholars believe it to derive from Greek grammateia, rather; it’s possible that both words had an influence on the formation of the Hebrew word.[2] It has been extant in English since the 17th century from translations of works by Giovanni Pico della Mirandola. Although ostensibly derived from Greek, it is largely used in Jewish texts, notably in those associated with the Kabbalah.”

      I hope you caught the last sentence which is in bold, “associated with the Kabbalah.” If you are like me, I’ve only recently come in contact with this word “Kabbalah” through the entertainment news which informed which  celebrities  were believing in and practicing this form of a religous belief system.  Here is the definition of what Kabbalah represents as reported in Wikipedia: “

Kabbalah, also spelled Kabala or Qabbālâ (Hebrew: קַבָּלָה literally “receiving”), is an esoteric method, discipline and school of thought. Its definition varies according to the tradition and aims of those following it,[1] from its religious origin as an integral part of Judaism, to its later Christian, New Age, or Occultist syncretic adaptations. Kabbalah is a set of esoteric teachings meant to explain the relationship between an unchanging, eternal and mysterious Ein Sof (no end) and the mortal and finite universe (his creation). While it is heavily used by some denominations, it is not a religious denomination in itself. Inside Judaism, it forms the foundations of mystical religious interpretation. Outside Judaism, its scriptures are read outside the traditional canons of organised religion. Kabbalah seeks to define the nature of the universe and the human being, the nature and purpose of existence, and various other ontological questions. It also presents methods to aid understanding of these concepts and to thereby attain spiritual realisation.”

“Kabbalah originally developed entirely within the realm of Jewish thought and kabbalists often use classical Jewish sources to explain and demonstrate its esoteric teachings.” “These teachings are thus held by followers in Judaism to define the inner meaning of both the Hebrew Bible and traditional Rabbinic literature, their formerly concealed transmitted dimension, as well as to explain the significance of Jewish religious observances.[2]  “

  So we see that “Kabbalah is mystical in it’s nature brought about by  rabbinic teachers, these “rabbinic teachers” are NOT Christian, so their thoughts are coming from a darkened mind of sinful flesh, and not by the Holy Spirit! 

This is how I came to the conclusion that Jim Brown, who is utilizing an “occult” practice of Gematria to understand scriptures, is a false teacher.  We have the Holy Spirit which will teach us all we need to know concerning the Lord’s word;

1Jn 2:27  But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Php_3:15  Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

Joh_16:13  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

        After I found out the meaning of Gematria My next step was to search out if any other person had discovered this man to be a false teacher, all I found was a complaint by a man who was involved for a while with this ministry, he stated, and I quote..

…..“It is really sad that someone who claims to represent the teachings of God, is having his employees harass other religious entities behind the scenes. Jim Brown who is Minister of Grace & Truth Ministries in Hendersonville Tennessee, has had several of his cronies call on via the phone, e-mail, or sometimes on site of a competing Church, and attack the beliefs of that congregation who Brown deems not to be a true Christian by his own beliefs.”

“Brown’s hard-core cult-like teachings of the Bible, attract a fringe group of Christians who wish to exalt themselves over traditional groups such as Catholics, Baptists, Pentecostal, and any other religious group they deem worthy of attack.”

“Brown is not man enough himself to do the dirty work, so he has his followers or low-paid employees do it for him. They call people anonymously and verbally attack them with their views of the Bible. They send CDs and literature as well to unsuspecting churches who they target.”

“For several years. Brown and his group have been brokering airtime of cable systems across the country to carry their television ministry and raise donations. Brown hired an out of work heavy metal radio disc jockey – Dave Tuckmantel – to contact TV outlets to carry the weekly broadcasts.”

“Tuckmantel is responsible for harassing many religious organizations in behalf of Brown, and hap-hazardly boasts of his activities in the name of God.”

“This is completely unacceptable behavior and unethical for a religious entity to behave in such a manner. I was a supporter of Grace & Truth Ministries for quite sometime, however after learning of these shameful activities, I have since severed ties with them.”

“I feel the public needs to be aware of their activities and unethical behavior of Jim Brown and his Grace & Truth Ministries.

      There was another, person a woman who commented on this complaint board, who also had dealings with this group, this is what she had stated and I quote…..“wow…I feel like I’ve talked myself into a blank space with an indictment against Jim. WELL, I’m not here for that…I, initially, was here to stand up for what Jim has done and is doing. Jim has a healthy study habit which has/ does produce tremendous information in support of the Bible. I feel like a viable candidate to speak for that aspect of Jim’s ministry. But, within this ‘filtering’ of argumentation I have come to realize by my own words that my feelings are just as true for not going to his church. My feelings should have NOTHING to do with those who feel healthy within that church environment. It was Jim who did pull me out of so many problems so long ago … he was ‘the hammer’ that knocked me out of me… I have evolved into who I am because of that…and evolved out of going there. I don’t make this a moral implication or mental evolution…it’s just that I’m not there anymore because of what I feel to be ‘in lack of’ a healthy environment for my own family. I hope this has helped anyone — maybe only me”.

      There was not much out there on the web who stood up against Jim Brown and his teaching, which I found surprising because this man has been around for a while.  I could find no real testimony on how the Lord found him, (how he was saved) and that makes me highly suspicious, because when you meet the Lord by and through His Holy Spirit, you know you met with God and you can’t help but proclaim it from the roof tops!

      Now I have run across a man who is speaking out against this man and gives his reason why this man, Jim Brown, of “Grace & Truth Ministries” is what I’ve expected….a false teacher….a heretic of the worse kind.   Here are some of his discoveries concerning this ungodly, and unholy ministry! 

“Jim Brown says – “THE BIBLE IS FULL OF LIES – THERE ARE NO DEMONS”! ( Series – Doctrine of the Devil, #3030)”

“More than once in this tape this man blurts out “the Bible is full of lies”! But he is quick to catch himself and clarifies by saying – “I didn’t say the Bible is a lie, but that the Bible is full of lies”!”



“(Series – Predestination and Atonement, #2903)”

“This is a denial of the ‘Doctrine of the Original Sin‘ and the ‘The doctrine of Imputation‘.”

“The preacher who teaches that men are ‘born innocent’ and only become sinners when they sin has understood neither the enormity of the FALL nor the Gospel!”


“JIM BROWNS’ WARPED VIEW OF REGENERATION! ((Series – Predestination and Atonement, #2903)”

““I was about four years old, I was this INNOCENT little boy, I didn’t know my right hand from my left . . . I don’t know what my first sin was, I was alive without the law once . . . ”   (by ‘alive without the law once’ Jim Brown means he was sinless until he was four. In fact he asserts that when Paul said this in Romans 7:9 he was referring to his sinlessness as a child)”

“He goes on to say that when he was six or seven that’s when he first sinned and that’s when he died (spiritually)!”


       These are just a few excerpts of what he has written……to read more detailed information  here is the link;

      I would just like to add that I tried to listen to other video’s of this Jim Brown, and I suffered through the most excruciating mental pain of trying to understand what this man was teaching concerning the birth of Cain, and what I did pick up before my computer froze, was that Jim Brown stated “that there was more than ONE VIRGIN birth, Eve and God created Cain!  Once my computer un-froze, I could not get back to the same video.  But I did have a headache that lasted a good half hour before it disappeared!  That my dear brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus is a sure sign of “human reasoning” being taught, there was no Unction of the Holy Spirit in this man’s teaching, which proves he knows not the Jesus Christ of the Bible, that he relies on his fallen human reasoning while utilizing occult tools, which were brought about by men who were NOT saved, but by Jewish rabbinical teachers!  I love the body of Christ especially the babes in Christ, for they have not the capacity to discern what is of the Lord and of the devil, because it “sounds good” to them, but that is the trick of “wolves in sheep’s clothing”.  I know what it is to be deceived while being a babe in Christ, I have the stripes that my soul, my mind, and my faith suffered due to “doctrine of demons”, and it took the Lord years to undue it, as I was able to receive His Truth.  So by the loving grace of my Heavenly Father, through the mediation of Jesus Christ, and by the sealing of the Holy Spirit, I am where I am, and I will NOT stifle or be afraid to stand up against any false teacher, pastor, or so-called spiritual leader that knows not the Christ of the Bible, His Gospel, His Truth which is all due to His Love for His children, and whoa to those that are a stumbling block to His young flock!

      As the Word of the Lord states:

Eph 5:5  For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6  Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7  Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Eph 5:8  For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
Eph 5:9  (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
Eph 5:10  Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
Eph 5:11  And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Col 2:6  As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
Col 2:7  Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
Col 2:8  Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 1:18  For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

2Th 2:10  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12  That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

       May our Gracious Heavenly Father through the unction of His Holy Spirit give you the grace to set you free from all false doctrines and those that teach it.  For I am assured of this one thing, that the Lord shall NOT lose ONE of His Sheep, and He shall deliver you out of the claws of false teaching and their leaders, for our hope is only in Him and not of ourselves.

       Be blessed…….In His Eternal Love…..

Can any good fruit come out of the ‘Christianity Today’ magazine?……..No!

Mat 7:17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

         My interest in writing this blog entry stemmed from an email a Christian believer sent me in regards to an article, which was featured in the February 2012 issue of the ‘ Christianity Today’ magazine.  The article which was brought to my attention, was written by Thomas Bergler titled “When Are We Going To Grow Up?  The Juvenalization of American Christianity”.  I shall get to the article shortly, but first I want to establish a basic history from whence this apostate magazine was first established and who was it’s birth-er, or founder.

          According to a Wikipedia report, the brainchild of this publication was non-other than Mr. Billy Graham, and right there is the first major “RED FLAG”!  Here is a direct quote:

“The founder, Billy Graham, stated that he wanted to “plant the evangelical flag in the middle-of-the-road, taking the conservative theological position but a definite liberal approach to social problems”.[3] Graham started the magazine as counter-point to The Christian Century, the predominant independent periodical of mainline Protestantism, and as a way to bring the evangelical Christian community together.[3][4]

         Here are some of the major contributors to this magazine as quoted from the same source:

“The first issue of Christianity Today was mailed October 15, 1956, and the opening editorial, Why ‘Christianity Today’?,[5] stated “Christianity Today has its origin in a deep-felt desire to express historical Christianity to the present generation. Neglected, slighted, misrepresented—evangelical Christianity needs a clear voice, to speak with conviction and love, and to state its true position and its relevance to the world crisis. A generation has grown up unaware of the basic truths of the Christian faith taught in the Scriptures and expressed in the creeds of the historic evangelical churches.”

“Its first editor was Carl F. H. Henry. Notable contributors in its first two decades included contributions from F. F. Bruce, Edward John Carnell, Frank Gaebelein, Walter Martin, John Warwick Montgomery, and Harold Lindsell. Lindsell succeeded Henry as editor and during his editorial administration much attention centered on debates about biblical inerrancy. Later editorial work came from Kenneth Kantzer and Terry Muck. Notable current writers include author Philip Yancey, Fuller Theological Seminary’s Richard Mouw, Yale Law professor Stephen Carter, and Prison Fellowship’s Charles W. Colson. The current Editor in Chief is David Neff and Senior Managing Editor is Mark Galli. Contents include feature stories, news ranging from cultural issues from a Christian viewpoint to the global church, opinion, reviews, and investigative reporting.”

“In Billy Graham’s 1997 autobiography, ‘Just As I Am,’ he writes[6] of his vision, idea, and history with Christianity Today.”

            With that being said here is a link titled: “The Transformation of the Church” “Christianity Today””~A Database of Historical and Current Data on the Strategic Partnerships & Interlocking Directorates  of Organizations in the Global Ecumenical Movements.”  This is a well documented breakdown of the influences that are behind this apostate publication.  This web-site has a huge database of information concerning the ecumenical movement and all those that are associated with this Anti-Christ system:

              If one is truly interested they can do their own research into the heresies and wicked fruit this magazine puts forth, here are a couple to start you off :  

            I think it is safe to say that “Christianity Today” is a tool of the devil, and all those that contribute to it, support it, and refer people to it for so-called “spiritual enlightenment” are NOT serving Jesus Christ whatsoever! As God’s Word attests we who do KNOW HIM, must separate ourselves from such wicked un-Godliness and warn others to stay away from it’s influences, especially those that are young in the ways of the Lord!  This is true Love, this is the way of His Truth………. to do less is sin.

2Ti 3:3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
2Ti 3:4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

           Now regarding the article that was brought to my attention, I first need to state since the mid to late 1990’s, the Lord has taught me to search out ALL things that are brought to my attention by other believers, and/or so-called believers. Especially when I was introduced to ‘Frank Viola’ and his book “Rethinking the Wine Skin” (who is a new ager and an enemy of the Gospel) I first seek out who is being mentioned, what their background is, where they have attended  (so-called) “Bible Schools, theology schools or universities”, (which by the way are not sanctioned by God according to His Word). What their influences were, where they teach, and what they teach, and more importantly I try to read their testimony, “if” one can find one.   And this discipline has protected and served me well, and I thank my heavenly Father for causing me to do such a thing, for I know first hand how false teaching causes a child of God  to be detoured from the true and correct path of Righteousness leading to Godliness.

         The believer that brought my attention to this article had mentioned that they had read this and in their own words, and I quote; “It is an excellent read, long, 12 pages, but well worth the read.  Mr. Bergler basically speaks to the demise of maturity in Christian faith that is so apparent in our post modern church world.  I would call it “high school Christianity”.  After reading this I immediately went into action to search this man out, because I knew NOTHING good can come out of “Christianity Today”, and I will admit to being surprised and disappointed by the lack of true spiritual discernment that this fellow believer showed by giving any type of credence to anything that comes from this anti-Christ publication.  This is  the article as printed online in “Christianity Today” here is the link:

          What I discovered concerning the author who wrote this article: Mr. Thomas Bergleris associate professor of ministry and missions at Huntington University, Huntington, Indiana, where he has taught youth ministry for ten years. He is also senior associate editor for The Journal of Youth Ministry and author of the new book The Juvenilization of American Christianity.”    Here directly from the Huntington University web-site is his education background, and I find it rather interesting that he completed his PH.D at a Catholic University.  This man is Ecumenical from the start.

“Dr. Tom Bergler completed his Ph.D. in American Religious History from the University of Notre Dame and his M.A. in Theology and Church History from Wheaton College.”

“He served as a staff worker for University Christian Outreach for 7 years, helping to evangelize and disciple students at the University of Michigan, the University of London, and Michigan State University. He co-founded the Spring Academy, a Christian theology and ministry camp for students from state universities.”

“He currently serves as senior associate editor of The Journal of Youth Ministry.”

“He is the author of:”

  • “Enduring Myths of Youth Ministry” Youthworker Journal (Sept./Oct. 2004)
  • “‘I Found My Thrill’: The Youth for Christ Movement and American Congregational Singing, 1940-1970″ in Richard Mouw and Mark Noll, eds. Wonderful Words of Life: Hymns in American Protestant History and Theology (Grand Rapids: Eerdman’s, 2004): 123-149
  • “The Place of History in Youth Ministry Education” Journal of Youth Ministry 1:1 (Fall 2002): 57-71
  • “The Juvenilization of American Christianity, Eerdmans Publishing, 2012. See the article on his book in Christianity Today by” clicking here.

“He teaches Foundations of Christian Ministry, Discipling Ministries, Contemporary American Youth Culture, and Understanding the Christian Faith.”

        Here is some background information concerning Huntington University as found in Wikipedia: 

“Huntington University has a “strong historic and ongoing relationship with the Church of the United Brethren in Christ,”[1] an evangelical denomination headquartered in Huntington, Indiana.”


“The Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching classifies Huntington University as a principally undergraduate institution.[2] Huntington University offers associate’s, bachelor’s and master’s degrees in approximately 70 academic concentrations.”

“In 2010, the U.S.News & World Report annual collegiate rankings has listed Huntington University as 6th among the Best Baccalaureate Colleges in the Midwest region.[3] In 2009, Forbes ranked it 97th of America’s Best Colleges.[4]”

        Please note that “Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching” is a foundation that supports the New World Order, and One World Religion agenda.  Without a doubt this all represents the anti-Christ system. With this all being revealed it’s more than safe to state, that  Tomas Bergler is ecumenical, therefore his writings will be representing the condition of the apostate church.

        With this all being said in trying to establish the un-scriptural background of the magazine and the writer of “The Juvenilization of American Christianity” article by Thomas Bergler, one has to ask is true Christianity being addressed here?   I have to say from a Biblical perspective… NO!   I would have to greatly disagree with the fellow believer that sent this to me, and I have responded to this person expressing my concern that they would deem this article as an “excellent read”.  It is the farthest from the truth.  In this article, if you would go to the link provided and read it for yourself, you will take note that this man is including the Roman Catholic Church as part of the American Christian Church!  What does the RC have anything to do with true Christianity?  It does not, and never has.  It has always presented a false Christ with a false Gospel.  As soon as I read his inclusions of the RCC, I quickly arrived at the full  realization that this is not an excellent read.

          We should ask why is there such “immaturity” in the Christianity he is rebuking, and we who do follow our dear Lord and Saviour who have separated ourselves from the apostate church(because He, Jesus has separated us) would have to answer, it’s because the Christianity he is rebuking is not Biblical Christianity!  The very apostate Christianity he is rebuking is the very same apostate church he is part of!   He is trying to bring attention to the immaturity that exists, and yes it surely does exist, but what can one expect from a “tree that brings forth bad fruit”?  A bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit.  Mr. Thomas Bergler is part of the problem, he is from the tree that produces bad fruit, and until the Lord grants this man the Grace to see Him as He is, Mr. Bergler is battling a downhill battle, for his religion is built upon sand, and great will that fall be and it shall be burned.  As the Lord’s Word states:

Mat_7:17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat_7:18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat_7:19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Mat 7:26  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
Mat 7:27  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Mat_12:33  Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.


        In closing I would like to state that we who are of the true body of Christ, need to be more diligent in our discernment, and that discernment comes from the Lord.  We do a disservice to the Gospel of Jesus Christ if we be “wishy washy” in our understanding.  We need to ask Him for this discernment, His Wisdom.  We need to ask Him to make us one mind with His mind, with His thoughts and His Ways.  For they are much higher than ours.  We need to grow in the fullness that is in the Godhead bodily in Jesus Christ, and there will be a price to pay, as we grow more in standing and contending for the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ that was delivered unto us.  Be assured we will not be popular, nor accepted, we will be ridiculed, despised, treated wrongfully and shunned.  If you are loved by everyone, and all speak well of you, well you better check to see “if” you be in the faith.  It is far better to suffer with the Lord and rejected of men, than to compromise the one true faith found only in Jesus Christ. 

Col 2:7  Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
Col 2:8  Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Col 2:10  And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Col 2:11  In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Col 2:12  Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

        I will leave you with these words which the Lord planted upon the tablets of my heart back in the late 1990’s, it’s all about getting to know the mind of the Lord in all things, proving what is acceptable unto Him and Him alone:

Eph 5:6  Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7  Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Eph 5:8  For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
Eph 5:9  (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
Eph 5:10  Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
Eph 5:11  And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.


         I pray the Lord will bless this to all the hearts that need to hear.  Thank you and the Lord bless each and everyone one of you.

In His Eternal Love………..

Chick-fil-A president, Dan T. Cathy is not who you think he is.

        I was reading a blog posting today from ‘Stand for the Truth’, written by Mike LeMay, titled: “The War on Christianity-Are Our Leaders Prepared?”  And of course it was discussing the latest developments that have been occurring since Dan Cathy’s statement concerning “Gay Marriage”, and the huge emotional outrage that has been stirred up between the gay community and Christians through out the US.

       After I did some research on Dan T. Cathy and his so-called Christian background,  I began to think that Mike LeMay has it all wrong in this statement he made, a direct quote:

“However it is a huge mistake to think that this war is only about Chik-Fil-A. This is the opening battle of all out war on Christianity in this nation. Radical homosexuals and humanists will not stop if they successfully hurt Chik-Fil-A; they will not be content until homosexual marriage is a constitutionally protected right in this nation and until every child is indoctrinated with the lie that homosexuality is perfectly natural.”

“The battle over Chik-Fil-A is a springboard to all out attack on American churches.”

       I have to disagree with his projection that it is a “battle of all out war on Christianity” by the homosexuals and humanists.  The battle against true Christianity, is by those who are not true believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, and His Gospel.   Dan T. Cathy is a new-age, Emergent Church supporter.  This is what I discovered in my search when I went to his business Chick-fil-A website.

      Dan T. Cathy lists these on his Executive Bios section:  I highlighted the two that struck me the most to investigate:

  • Member, Board of Trustees, Berry College
  • Member, Board of Trustees, Morehouse College
  • Member, Advisory Board, Eagle Ranch
  • Member, Advisory Board, Global Teen Challenge
  • Executive Member, National Advisory Board, Lead Like Jesus
  • Member, Board of Councilors, The Carter Center
  • Member, Board Trustee, Gordon College Foundation
  • Member, The New Hope Baptist Church (and trumpet player in the church band)
  • Sunday School Teacher, 12th Grade Boys – Youth teacher for 37 years
  • Member, Metro Atlanta Board of Directors, Chamber of Commerce
  • Member, Jenkins Clinic Board of Directors, Vice Chairman
  • Advisory Board, Heritage Preparatory School
  • Recipient of the Outstanding American Award from the National Wrestling Hall
    of Fame – 2003
  • Honorary Doctorate Degree from the State University of West Georgia, Anderson College and Carver Bible College
  • Honorary Doctorate of Humanities Degree from Anderson College – 2005
  • Honorary Doctorate from HBCA Entrepreneur Summit
  • Honorary Doctorate, Law Degree, Pepperdine University, 2011

       This is what I found out concerning the National Advisory Board, Lead Like Jesus, as found on the ‘Let us Reason’ Ministries web-site,  Here is a direct quote on who is on this Board.

“Many in Christianity have been introduced to Blanchard by the “Lead Like Jesus” conference[s], where Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, Dan Cathy, Marjorie Dorr, Tami Heim, Ken Melrose, and Laurie Beth Jones have been speakers (Lead Like Jesus Celebration on April 29, 2004)”

 “Among the “Lead Like Jesus” National Board Members, are Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, Bob Buford, John Maxwell and New Ager Mark Victor Hansen.”

 “Both Rick Warren and Bill Hybels did a conference with Ken Blanchard (Leadership Summit 2005); Rick Warren, Ken Blanchard and Bill Hybels spoke at ( Lead Like Jesus 2003, 2004).At the 2004 Lead like Jesus Conference, Ken Blanchard & Bill Hybels spoke: “What is Lead Like Jesus All About? and“Making Your Commitment to Lead Like Jesus (”

     You can plainly see that Dan Cathy mentions that he is an “Executive Member” on this board.  Have the red flags gone up yet?  And yet another red flag, is that he is a “Member, Board of Councilors, The Carter Center!  The Carter Center was founded by Jimmy Carter, who has received Millions from Arab Leaders, for the sole purpose of forcing Israel to not only split Jerusalem, but also to accept a Palestinian nation within Israel!  Jimmy Carter is not a Christian, and he is an enemy of the Jews.

Here is information concerning Truett Cathy, Dan’s father, found at Wikipedia:

“Cathy has received numerous honors, including membership in Omicron Delta Kappa (OΔK), the National Leadership Honor Society. He received OΔK’s highest award, the Laurel Crowned Circle Award in 2009. He also received the Norman Vincent and Ruth Stafford Peale Humanitarian Award, the Horatio Alger Award, the William E. Simon Prize for Philanthropic Leadership, and the Boy Scouts of America Silver Buffalo Award. Cathy was inducted into the Junior Achievement U.S. Business Hall of Fame in 2003.[16][17]”

“He is a member of Pi Kappa Alpha and Delta Sigma Pi Fraternities.[18]”

“In 2007, Forbes magazine ranked Cathy as the 380th richest man in America and the 799th richest man in the world, with an estimated net worth of $1.2 billion.[19][20]”

“President George W. Bush bestowed the President’s Call to Service Award on Cathy in 2008.[21]”

“Cathy was inducted into the Indiana Wesleyan University Society of World Changers on April 3, 2011. In addition to being inducted into the Society, the university also conferred upon Cathy an honorary doctorate of business.”

“In May 2012, Cathy received an honorary doctorate along with presidential candidate Mitt Romney at the Liberty University‘s spring commencement ceremony. In his remarks, Romney, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee at the time, said, “The Romney campaign comes to a sudden stop when we spot a Chick-fil-A. Your chicken sandwiches were our comfort food through the primary season, and heaven knows there were days that we needed a lot of comfort.” Romney congratulated Cathy on his “well-deserved honor today”.[22]”

   2Co_6:14  Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

2Co_6:17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
        Luk_6:26  Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

      Here is a little tidbit concerning the corruption within the Southern Baptist Convention:    2000: The SBC adopted a new Baptist Faith and Message statement. Baptist historian Dr. Walter Shurden says this 2000 version, used as a creedal statement by SBC agencies, elevates the Bible to a position above that of Jesus himself and downplays the doctrines of priesthood of each believer and local church autonomy.[25] Conservatives contend that the statement accurately reflects the beliefs of most Southern Baptists. (found on  This means they have, as stated by Jimmy Carter: “Most disturbing has been the convention’s recent decision to remove Jesus Christ, through his words, deeds and personal inspiration, as the ultimate interpreter of the Holy Scriptures,” he explained in his press release. “This leaves open making the pastors or executives of the SBC the ultimate interpreters.”   In other-words, they have removed Jesus as God’s given authority over His people.  This is total depravity and Apostasy, and it explains why they deny Jesus’s Divinity and the Power of the Blood!

       For those that are truly after the Truth, and desire only to follow the Lord Jesus Christ, and His Gospel, I leave you to do your own research.  The Apostasy is so rampant, the web of deceit is so intertwined, that it is truly sobering and could take up so much of one’s time and get side tracked from what is truly important, to grow in the Fullness of the Godhead.  To grow more in the Lord Jesus Christ and what He represents, and stands for.  

      I have contended for the faith, called out what is major error, naming names, and will take nothing back, for I stand upon the Lord’s word, and His discernment.  I now shall be like Abraham, and just dwell with the Lord and learn more of Him, being separated from all the “religious wars”, and allow the evil to continue on.  For the Lord will judge all wickedness, he will bring judgement to all that know Him not, (false brethren), the Lord will judge the unbelievers (sinners), that is NOT our duty as true believers in Jesus Christ. I’ll let the blogs of: ‘Defending/Contending’, ‘Stand Up for the Truth’, ‘DiscernIt’ go on thinking that they are standing for truth, for in part they do, and that is good, but  they still refuse to call evil, evil in regards to the Southern Baptist Convention, John MacArthur, and all associated with this new Modern Evangelicalism.  The Lord will lead all His true remnant out from the false organizations, teachers, spiritual leaders, and they will separate themselves, like Abraham and find their “Promised Rest”.

      Now in regards to Matt Moore, he is a new believer, and unlearned in the things of the Lord.  And the Lord will lead him out of the error he is in,  like me, the Lord is faithful to His Sheep, and we will hear his voice, and we will “come out from among them”.  Whatever fruit, and works is not of the Lord, but through the flesh shall be burned up, and we will suffer loss (rewards).  But those things which are eternal, and authored by the Lord and His perfect will, shall be honored and rewarded. 

Mat_13:23  But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.


In His Eternal Love………

Those who deny or have denied the Eternal Sonship of Jesus Christ……….have never known Him.

1Jn 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

     The following is just a small part of an excerpt copied from an incredible sermon given by  pastor Philpot from 1850, against the heretical teaching which denies the Eternal Sonship of Jesus Christ!  How this man explains the truth of Jesus Eternal Sonship is done with such Grace in the strength of the truth written in God’s Word, truly representing the simplicity of Faith that is found in Christ Jesus.

        You will find a link at the bottom that will take you to the complete sermon in it’s full context. This will be my final say concerning John MacArthur, and his heretical teaching denying the Eternal Sonship of the Lord Jesus Christ.  I know he supposedly has rescinded his past teaching concerning it, but has he really?  Why then does his study books still present this heretical teaching?

        “Do we say this at a venture, or in harmony with the oracles of the living God? “Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” Joh 8:32. Then without knowing the truth there is no gospel liberty. “Sanctify them through Thy truth; Thy word is truth” Joh 17:17. Then without the application of the truth to the heart there can be no sanctification. “I have espoused you to one Husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ” 2Co 11:2,3.”

“Then another Jesus, another spirit, and another gospel than the truth corrupt the mind from the simplicity that is in Christ, seduce the bride from her rightful Head and Husband, and are as much the work of Satan as his beguiling Eve in Paradise 2Co 11:3,4. “And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie; that they all might be damned. who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness” 2Th 2:10-12 Then without receiving the love of the truth there is no salvation. Thus we see that without a vital, experimental knowledge of the truth, there is no liberty of spirit, no sanctification of heart, no union with Christ, and no salvation of the soul. And what is a religion worth when all these blessings are taken from it? What the salt is worth when it has lost its savour; what the chaff is worth when the grain is severed from it; what the tares are worth when the wheat is gathered into the garner. How necessary, then, it is for churches and ministers to hold the truth with a firm, unyielding hand, and to give no place to error no, not for an hour! Remember this, churches and ministers, deacons and members, and all ye that fear God in the assemblies of the saints, that there can be no little errors; we mean as regards the vital, fundamental doctrines of our most holy faith.”

“There may be differences of opinion on minor points, as on church government, the administration of the ordinances of the New Testament, the restoration of the Jews, the nature of the millennium; the interpretation of particular passages of scripture; but on such fundamental points as the blessed Trinity, the Person of Christ, the personality and work of the Holy Ghost, no deviation can be allowed from the straight and narrow line of divine truth. Error on any one of these vital points is from Satan; and he never introduces little errors; all, all are full of deadly poison. There was no great quantity of arsenic in the Bradford lozenges, not much strychnine in Palmer’s doses, but death and destruction were in both; or where not death, disease and suffering for life. Error in itself is deadly. In this sense, the tongue of error is “full of deadly poison” Jas 3:8, and of all erroneous men we may say, “With their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips” Ro 3:13. “Their wine,” with which they intoxicate themselves and others, “is the poison of dragons and the cruel venom of asps” De 32:33. The patient may vomit up the poison, but it is poison not the less. Do not, then, by reading erroneous books, hearing erroneous ministers, or associating with erroneous people, try the strength of your faith, or presume upon the soundness of your constitution. When you have tested the error by the inspired word of truth, and by the inward teaching of the blessed Spirit in your own heart, label it POISON! and “touch not, taste not, handle it not,” any more than you would arsenic or prussic acid.”

        “We are grieved to see an old error now brought forward and, we fear, spreading, which, however speciously covered up, is really nothing less than denying the Son of God. The error we mean is the denial of the eternal Sonship of the Lord Jesus Christ, as the Only-begotten of the Father before the foundation of the world. If the Lord has done anything for us by His Spirit and grace, He has wrought in our heart two things-a love to His truth and a love to His people. By both of these principles, therefore, we feel constrained to oppose this error to the utmost of our power, and to contend for what has been long commended to our conscience as the truth of God. This is no new question with us, no fresh doctrine which we have never before thought of or considered, but one the reality, power and sweetness of which we have for many years known and felt, for our very hope of eternal life hangs upon it.”

“We do not expect, indeed, by any arguments to convince those who have deeply drunk into the spirit of error. It is a rare thing for any such to vomit up the sweet morsel which they have eaten in secret; and of most of them, we fear it may be said, as being entangled in the snares of the mystical harlot, “For her house inclined unto death, and her feet unto the dead. None that go unto her return again, neither take they hold of the paths of life” Pr 2:18,19. We rather write for those who tremble at God’s Word, who have been made willing to receive the love of the truth that they may be saved thereby, and who dread above all things to be left to love and embrace a lie. And these often need instructing, for many of the saints of God are weak in judgment, and are thus laid open to the snares of Satan. They would not willingly, wilfully embrace error, but being simple, or not well rooted and established in the truth, they cannot discern false doctrine when speciously wrapped up in a cloud of words and backed with arguments and an array of texts, the meaning of which is, for the most part, perverted and distorted. Some, too, are drawn aside by favourite ministers of more knowledge and greater experience, as they think, than themselves; and others view the whole question as a mere controversy of words, and that it is an obscure and abstruse doctrine, which they heartily wish had never been brought forward to divide churches, perplex inquirers, and separate chief friends. But such arguments are always at hand when truth begins to speak with decided voice. God’s servants are only His mouth as they “take forth the precious from the vile” Jer 15:19; and when they wield the sword of the Spirit it may well sever churches and wound individuals, for “it pierces even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow” Heb 4:12.”

“The policy of Satan has always been to cry out against the truth as causing confusion, disturbing the general peace of the church, and filling the world with division and strife. It was so in the days of Athanasius, when he, almost single-handed, fought against Arianism. It was so in the days of Luther, when he began to oppose Popery; and it was so with our Puritan ancestors, when they testified against the various corruptions in doctrine and life which prevailed in their day. Those who from self-interest, love of carnal ease, entanglement in error, or cowardice of spirit, wished things to remain quiet as they were, all lifted up their voice against the disturbers of the general peace. We would say, then, to all who are zealous for the truth on earth, Do not think that this is a matter of little import, that we are plunging into a controversy about mere words, and troubling the churches with tithes of mint, anise and cummin, and omitting the weightier matters of judgment, mercy and faith. Examine the Scriptures for yourselves, especially the First Epistle of John, and then say whether the true Sonship of Christ is a matter of little importance. And as we hope, with God’s help and blessing, to examine the subject prayerfully and carefully, in the light of His teaching, and as revealed in the sacred Scripture, we call upon our spiritual readers, not merely to give a passing glance to the testimonies that we shall bring forward, but to weigh them well in the balance of the sanctuary, and see for themselves whether we are contending earnestly for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints, or, laying aside the commandment of God, are holding the tradition of men.”

I just want to add that I have not read all of this web-sites entries, so utilize your own discernment when searching this web-site out.

I am convinced by the authority in the Lord’s Word concerning John MacArthur, and his heretical teachings on this subject and concerning his denial of the precious Blood of Jesus Christ, shed for the remission of sins, he is not a believer nor a teacher of the Lord Jesus Christ of the Holy Scriptures.  As I have read with my own eyes from his website what his beliefs are, what has influenced him, and that he is supporting the New World Order and the ecumenical and emerging church movements. 

I pray those that truly love the REAL Lord Jesus Christ will run far from all who are walking in darkness and teaching another Jesus, and another Gospel and are assisting in the antichrist system.

Here is another web-site that will reveal ALL who are entangled with the NWO and the foundations that give financial assistance to evangelical associations, seminars, various Bible Colleges, Universities, etc., to assist in training souls for a One World Religion.

  The Lord bless each and everyone of you that truly desires to walk in the Light, as Our Lord is in the Light….

In His Eternal Love…….

The Masonic ties of John MacArthur’s father, Jack MacArthur……

Luk_12:2  For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.

       I would like to begin stating that I do think it is relevant to look into the Masonic and ecumenical ties that surrounded Jack MacArthur’s “ministry” and the effects it had upon John MacArthur’s life which has developed him into the man that he now is.

       I will be utilizing other researchers work from a variety of Discernment Ministries which have been digging up the “behind the scenes” manipulations of various organizations, religious groups, popular preachers, pastors, teachers, and various Bible Seminars, Colleges, and Universities for the sole purpose of establishing the Anti-Christ System.

      I will be presenting all these documented facts for you to do your own research in searching out the shocking truth of what has been going on since 1947, which is around the time that Israel was granted to become a nation.  I wanted to do all the leg work in presenting these facts to save you the time, for their is so much information out there regarding this web of deception, it would seem to be inexhaustible!  For honest seekers of truth need to come to their own conclusions using the Word of God as our final authority to accept what is of Him and by Him, and to reject everything else that is of the flesh and of Satan.

      I pray that those who are truly serious in coming to the truth of all matters concerning these “last days” will come to understand why we must defend the One True Faith in Jesus Christ, so that we are able to protect ourselves, our families and all true believers from the deception that is so rapidly growing amongst us.  And that we are responsible by direct command from our Lord and the doctrinal foundations laid out by His Chosen Apostles to recognize and name ALL who are false shepherds, teachers, preachers and so-called “spiritual leaders” of our day and then we must separate ourselves from them and all who support them.

       I want to start with a woman known as Henrietta Mears, with whom Jack MacArthur did know, and assisted in the founding of the Fuller Theological Seminar, these scriptures which instructs us in what is acceptable in the Lords eyes, says it all concerning this woman:

1Ti 2:11  Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12  But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13  For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14  And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

Now let’s continue onto the Masonic connection:

John MacArthur studied at Talbot School of Theology, here it shows them honoring  Henrietta Mears: “As a Trainer of Leadership and Developer of Organizations”

Some of the men that were mentors to John M were: Dr. Charles Feinburg:

Other mentors were Dr. W. A. Crisswell, (who was also a mentor to Rick Warren), and Donald Barnhouse.

      I know it’s quite a bit of info, but when patiently read, one can see what surrounded John MacArthur in his youth, and as a student, and one does have to reasonably consider that John MacArthur is not whom he portrays himself to be.  Next we will be going over some of his teachings that have sparked so much controversy during his leadership at the Grace for You ministry, and the Grace Community Church.

     I will end this with these scriptures from the word of God:

Eph 5:6  Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7  Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Eph 5:8  For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
Eph 5:9  (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
Eph 5:10  Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
Eph 5:11  And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Eph 5:12  For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
Eph 5:13  But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
Eph 5:14  Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Eph 5:15  See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
Eph 5:16  Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
Eph 5:17  Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

      The Lord bless you and keep you in His Way, in His Truth, and may the truth set you free!

Refuting the false Gospel of John MacArthur concerning the Blood of Jesus Christ.

        I will be in the next few days revealing the deceitfulness of John MacArthur’s teaching on the Blood of Jesus Christ, and will also show documented proof of his connection with the Mason’s and “Change Agents” which is bringing in “Purpose Driven” agenda within his church and it’s affiliates.

       I will be using other believers investigative work, with the links or addresses, that shows absolute proof of the willful deceitfulness of so many men who say they are” true Bible leaders/teachers” in the neo-evangelical movement.  Also I will list so-called Blogs, that also appear to be standing for the truth, contending for the faith, but they only go so far, but once confronted with documented proof of their “celebrity idols”compromises and connections to evil forces, they refuse to acknowledge it, let alone read it.  They will censor people who contend against their so-called “truthful contending”, when in fact they are compromising the truth as well.

       So please bare with me, this will take a few days or more to get this all posted in segments, and who ever wants to make comments, please do, I will only censor those that “blaspheme” the Word of God.

       I leave you with this from Timothy, which is speaking of the time that we see ourselves presently in, the time of the Great Apostasy, the false church is rising and we are seeing the greatest falling away from the truth!  Do I rejoice in the apostasy….no…. it is a sad, and sobering occurrence, but those of us who know and hear the voice of our Great Shepherd Jesus Christ will be delivered and separated from the evil that is surrounding us.

      2Ti 3:1  This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2Ti 3:2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
2Ti 3:4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
2Ti 3:8  Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
2Ti 3:9  But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
2Ti 3:10  But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
2Ti 3:11  Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
2Ti 3:12  Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
2Ti 3:13  But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
2Ti 3:14  But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
2Ti 3:15  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16  All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17  That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

In His Truth, we shall be protected from the wiles of the devil. 

Eph 6:10  Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
Eph 6:11  Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

      May the Lord bless all who are searching for the truth, and may He grant you His discernment in Spirit and in Truth, and open your eyes so that you may follow Him, and His ways, and not after man.

      Be blessed………

Is Matt Moore building on shifting sands concerning…’Only One Way’ & Doctrine?

       I’ve just found out I’m blocked from Matt Moore’s blog.  I was never notified of this, and no reason given.  I sent Matt an email when I noticed my comment on an entry of his, which was excellent, would not post.  So I thought Matt maybe monitoring my replies.  Nope…… it was not the case. I asked Matt if I was blocked, or being monitored, and if I was, would he be kind enough to let me know, and if possible the reasons why?   I received nothing…….just dead silence.  I’ve been “shunned”.

      Due to this “blockage”, I had some thoughts that bothered me concerning the treatment I received and the treatment a commenter named Davide who is of the Roman Catholic faith, did not receive regarding his use of vulgar language, belittling of other commenters, his blasphemous teachings, and his misguided RC views on certain topics.  This man was never warned, nor informed to stop his RC teachings and so-called ‘ministering’.  Matter of fact this man kept informing others “not to take me seriously”, to “ignore me”.  (You will find some of Davide’s comments on my posting titled:’A True Christian Church…..”).  So I decided to search out Matt’s blog to see why this could have happened.  Here are two of Matt’s entries which does shed some light on what Matt is believing.

‘There is Only One Way’ (posted on Dec 7th, 2010)

“(Most of this I got from a sermon from Chuck Pourciau From Broadmoor Baptist in shreveport. You can download the sermon for free on Itunes)”

“80% percent of Americans believe there is more than one way to God and Heaven. 91% of Roman Catholics believe the same thing, along with 68% of Protestant Evangelicals.”

“A lot of people don’t think that there is one true religion. Most people would say that even though the beliefs of religions may be different, the base of most religions is being a good person. A common misconception is that “a lot of religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism) are all true, and its just a personal preference to whichever one you choose. But whichever one you choose will be right as long as you are sincere”. But in all actuality, sincereity has absolutely nothing to do with TRUTH.”

“The problem is, it is impossible for all religions to be right, based on the rule of absolute truth. It is possible for all religions to be wrong, but it is IMPOSSIBLE for all religions to be right. Following is some of the beliefs”

“What do they think about God?”

“Christianity- There is one, eternal God.”

“Judaism- One eternal, just God.”

“Islam- Allah is one eternal god.”

“Mormonism- God was once a man, who later became a god”

“Hinduism- 33 main gods, and as many as 330 million other gods”

“Buddhism- Athiestic religion”

“What do they beleive about man?”

“Christianity- simple, but valuable to God”

“Judaism- man is basically good, but has flaws, and needs to try to improve through suffering.”

“Islam- man is basically good”

“Mormonism- beleive that men can become Gods”

“Hinduism- beleive that man is part of the gods”

“Buddhism- Man is basically good but needs to elminiate all his cravings.”

“What do they think about Jesus?”

“Christianity- fully God and fully man”

“Judaism- Blasphemous human teacher”

“Islam- prophet, not the Son of God”

“Mormonism- an elder brother who became a god”

“Hinduism- a teacher, a guru, did not die for our sins or rise from the dead”

“Buddhism- an enlightened man”

“What do they think about Salvation?”

“Christianity- By knowing God through a relationship with Jesus, by grace through faith.( which is completely different from any other religion)”

“Judaism-though prayer, repentance, and obediance to law”

“Islam-submitting to Allah”

“Mormonism- available only to Mormon’s through obedience to mormon teaching”

“Hinduism- release from the cycle of reincarnation, through yoga and meditation”

“Buddhism- goal of life is Nirvana (eliminate all desires and cravings)”

“What do they think about Heaven?”

“Christianity- a place of eternal joy for those who have received God’s gift of salvation through Jesus”

“Judaism- Most jews dont know there is a heaven, but thoes that do say good people go there”

“Islam-place for those chosen by Allah”

“Mormonism- Exalted place for mormons who become gods or angels”

“Hinduism- free from all desires”

“Buddhism- emptiness, the end of consciousness”

“What do they think about Hell?”

“Christianity- place of eternal torment for those who have rejected Gods love”

“Judaism- place of eternal torment for evil people”

“Islam-for those who have rejected Allah”

“Mormonism- its not really Hell, but the lowest level of Heaven”

“Hinduism- re-incarnation”

“Buddhism- no such thing as sin, so there is no Hell.”

“All of the religions are contradictory.They can’t all be true.”

“Jesus Christ is the only way of Salvation, and the only way to God, and the only way to Heaven. There is no other way.”

“Historians, both Christians and Non-Christians, both agree on a few facts:”

“1) Jesus of Nazareth was a real man who lived in the 1st century.”

“2) Jesus was executed by crucifixtion on a roman cross.”

“3) Days after his burial, the tomb of Jesus was empty (Yes, non-christians agree with this).”

“-If the body was in fact there, they wouldn’t have said “the body has been stolen”. They would have said “Look! the body is RIGHT THERE!””

“4) Even athiest historians agree that many people BELIEVED they saw Jesus alive after his death. A LOT of people. But their (athiest) explanation for this was that they hallucinated. People do have hallucinations in times of high stress or emotional states. And the people were very emotional at the time. And even group hallucinations have been recorded before. But NEVER in all the history of mankind has a group of people hallucinated the SAME THING. People who were scared and running before they saw Jesus resurrected began BOLDLY declaring their faith in the Risen Jesus, even to their own death. Many people were executed for that proclamation. They were willing to go to their deaths for Him. This is a historically recorded fact.”

“What’s the easiest way to explain what happened? HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD.”

“My main reason for sharing this is so that people will understand that all religions are NOT true and they do not lead to the same thing or the same place.”

“I do understand that a lot of people havent really chosen a “religion”. I know they (because I did too) ask “well what makes the bible true?” ” What makes this whole thing about Jesus true (mostly explained above)?” The bible is the only religious book that does not contradict itself. It contains 2500 propehecies, 2000 of which have already been fulfilled to the letter. Don’t take my word for it, research it on your own…find the truth yourself, don’t take ANYONE elses word for it. But I do promise you, that every question you have and answer you find will lead you to the same thing… Jesus Christ.”

      Does anyone find it ODD that there is no mention of the Roman Catholic Church, Lutheran, Anglican, Episcopalian, Jehovah Witness, Seventh Day Adventist amongst others, which should be listed?  I do.  To me this is presenting “Christianity” in the broadest terms possible, leading me to think there’s a hint of ecumenical compromise. 

      What are your thoughts?

 Now here is something he wrote concerning division and doctrine:

“GET REAL(posted on April 26, 2011) by Matt Moore

“Doctrines of the Bible don’t cause division. Differences of opinion don’t cause division. Preferences don’t cause division. PEOPLE CAUSE DIVISION. It doesn’t matter what your take is on speaking in tongues, election, worship, or anything else. Our genuine faith in Jesus Christ is what should always tie us together.”

“Every day I see subliminal posts arguing different stances on different issues in the Church. I’ve been guilty of it myself! But to be honest, it really doesn’t matter what believers disagree about if it doesn’t affect the centrality of our Faith and the commandment Jesus has given us to make disciples of all nations (Matthew 28). Stand for what you believe in, but not at the expense of alienating or casting out other true believers that may not think just like you do. There is only One who is perfect; only One who is always 100% right; and that is God, not any human being.”

“What we need to understand is not a single one of us even has the remote capability to “redefine the church”. You can’t even breathe on your own or make your own heart beat; how in the world do you think you are going to do anything for God? The Holy Spirit is the only One who is capable of doing the will of the Father. And He will do the will of the Father, regardless of your personal input or involvement. He is the only One that changes people’s hearts. He is the only One that brings unity. He is the only One that brings peace. He is the only One that brings power. Not you or I!”

“Want to make a difference? Forsake ignorance and indulge yourself in the Word of God. Pray for the Holy Spirit to fill you and work through you on behalf of the will of God. Because that is the only way you will ever be used by God. He’s not interested in our personal agendas; no matter how “godly” we may think our plans are. The Holy Spirit will only act on what the Father wants; and will always, in all cases, glorify Jesus Christ. He will not glorify us or esteem us. The Holy Spirit will always unite true believers whose hearts have been so radically changed that their only desire is to make much of Jesus. Always.”

“How do we redefine the church?”

“1) GET REAL and stop thinking that our personal ability & human intelligence is capable of doing anything for God.”

“2) Drown ourselves in the Word of God.”

“3) Submit completely to the will of God”

“4) Pray for the Spirit of God to move so heavily that the world cannot help but acknowledge the fact that Jesus Christ is ALIVE.”

     I find there is so much error in this writing, from a biblical standpoint, it will take time to break it down and reveal why none of this comes from a Godly point of view, meaning what the Lord’s Word has to say about this.

      The first scripture that comes to my mind is…....Luk 12:51  Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
Joh 7:43  So there was a division among the people because of him.
Joh 7:16  Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
Joh 7:17  If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Joh 7:18  He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
2Ti 4:2  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2Jn 1:9  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11  For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

      Matt unfortunately does not see that he is being swept into the false teachings by the many teachers he supports.  I have also discovered that Matt does support and promotes on his Facebook page,  Matt Chandler pastor of the Village Church, and recently elected President of Acts 29, which was founded by Mark Driscoll.  Matt Chandler promotes and supports ‘The Jesus Manifesto’ written by New Ager Leonard Sweet and Frank Viola***.  Here is a direct quote from Matt Chandler found on the ‘Jesus Manifesto’ web-site;

“There cannot be enough books written about the majesties and excellencies of Christ. To see Jesus as He is will transform us from one degree or glory to the next. Everything is about Him, for Him and to Him. I am grateful that Frank and Leonard did the work and are putting this in the lap of so many.
Matt Chandler, Lead Pastor, The Village Church.”

      *** Just a note regarding Frank Viola, the Lord revealed to me back in 1999 when I was given a book written by him titled: “Rethinking the Wine Skin” that Frank was not a Christian and his book was not inspired by our Lord.  FRANK VIOLA PRACTICES CORRUPT CONTEMPLATIVE/CENTERING PRAYER and has been doing it for over 20 years.  That is a New Age concept!***

      Since when are we told by the Lord and His Apostles that we are to make disciples of Jesus Christ at the cost of  the truth……….never!  I pray the Lord will have mercy upon Matt Moore, and lead him out of this horrible trap he is in, and draw Matt closer to Himself and teach him His ways, for Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

        Here is a sobering warning from our Dear Lord and Saviour: Mat 7:26  And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
Mat 7:27  And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

The Lord bless you all who live for His truth…….

Warning alert concerning Matt Moore’s blog……

       Well it’s time I mention the blogger which I wrote about in my last entry, he has informed me to stop and desist. Here are his very words…..a direct quote.

That’s enough. If you want to have endless arguments based on your ill perceptions and constantly tear down everyone else and call it “love”, do it else where.”

     This was told me due to my stand against their support of Greg Laurie, and Lonnie Frisbee, and Matt’s desire to accomplish a 14 month internship with Mars Hill Church in Seattle, Washington, lead by Mark Driscoll. Here is the direct quote from the ‘Christian Post’ an online publication written in March of this year.

He hopes that his search will be cut short, however, because he has applied for a 14-month internship at Mars Hill Church in Seattle that would begin in August if he is accepted.”

      I asked Matt the following, it’s a direct quote;

I’ve read that you have applied to Mars Hill Church in Seattle, have you done any background check on Mark Driscoll and what he teaches let alone what and who he supports? If not Matt, you should. Here is a site that will give you a good picture what Marc Driscoll stands for: And it ‘s not good, you are not being guided by the Lord to apply there, you are being guided by your “feelings”, not based upon truth. Not everyone that speaks about Jesus is following the one true Jesus. Marc Driscoll is a false misguided teacher who supports Rick Warren amongst other things.”
“I’m encouraging you to check ALL things out, as our Bible instructs us to, for your protection, for your faith, and to protect those that you minister too.”

      He never responded one way or another, and I find this all a bit sad, for Matt is a new Christian about 2-3 yrs.  I’ve been giving him the benefit of the doubt due to his “newness” in Christ Jesus.  I know how I was when I first met the Lord, and ignorant of His ways, and not aware of the deceitfulness of false teachers, and false doctrines.  We did not have the internet back in the late 1970’s, so to search things out was not as accessible as it is now. I learned it all the hard way, but it worked out for good, as the Lord promised it would and it has sharpened my discernment skills, and taught me to how”prove all things”.

1Th 5:21  Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
1Th 5:22  Abstain from all appearance of evil.

       My experience on Matt’s blog has not been all bad, I’ve made very good confirming comments when someone did speak truth, and it was presented in a biblical context, but then the “little isms” appeared, and I’ve learned by the Lord, that it’s in the little foxes, which spoil the vine.  As a babe in Christ, we really know nothing about the little details which our God is very specific about, especially when it comes to false teaching, and how it is presented, it is always presented in some form of truth, but it’s that little twist that binds us unwillingly to error in our ignorance.

Son 2:15  “Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes.”

       I realize that when we first meet the Lord and He grants us the gift of grace which leads us to repentance, we want and do shout it from the roof tops!  So we go about telling everyone, and we then feel we have a ministry to the lost, which is good, but not necessarily in God’s timing.  So many feel it’s more important to get out there and save the lost, without looking at the responsibility of what we do with them after they come to know the Lord!   In Matt’s case he feels he has a ministry to the homosexual community, and maybe he does, I’m not questioning that, but it’s with WHOM  he associates himself with that concerns me!  He is hoping to join a  church group as stated in his latest blog entry:

Got this from a fellow Shreveporter’s blog who is a member of the Church that, Lord-willing, I will be joining. Great stuff.”

      So I follow the link, and what I find is disastrous!  Here is the link that shows who this groups follows:

     This is through the ‘Norris Ferry Community Church’, which Matt speaks of.  If you follow the link you will see that they are following the teaching advice of Tim KellerI researched Tim Keller and this is what I found, it is numbing!  This is a video presentation with him speaking and he supports Richard Foster and promotes his book., (just copy and paste on you tube).

Mr. Keller is promoting the Author Richard Foster who teaches New Age mysticism, through meditative and contemplative prayer practices.  Here is a link that will give you further information concerning the evil teachings of this man: Tim Keller who supports this man is going to be used in order to help assist ‘Neighbors to Nations Ministries’ to plant churches, the article is titled ‘Justification of Church Planting’.  This is the church group that Matt Moore desires to join, “lord willing” (his words), so he can be used there to minister to the lost homosexual, and then lead these poor innocent people into the depths of Satan’s pit!  By the way, ‘Neighbors to Nations Ministries’ is by ‘Norris Ferry Community Church’  an affiliate with the Southern Baptist Convention which has ties to the UN, here is the link, read it and weep:

    Do you  see my concern?  I have to say to Matt Moore, and all that support this man’s blog, and encourages him in his so-called ministry to the lost homosexuals, how can you justify leading anyone from one hell hole into another one.  It is just beyond words to me!

    You can not justify any of this and call it “misrepresenting the facts“, nor can you justify it by stating “we all have blind spots” or “faults”.  This goes way beyond, this is the devils work you are supporting, and Matt and all others will all give an account, and I tremble for you, and pray that “if” you truly are the Lord’s that He will have mercy and open your eyes to the truth of what you are getting involved with, for the Lord does blink at ignorance for a while, but then He will hold you accountable.  Just think about those poor souls you are going to minister too, what Jesus are you leading them to….what Gospel are you preaching to them?

Mat_7:13  Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat_7:14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

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